Is Dawkins right?
Holy
Trinity October 3rd and 4th 2007
Dr Alison Morgan, PhD from Cambridge, formerly university lecturer, now ordained minister in the CofE. Not brought up in church, I used to be atheist, till I found myself confronted with questions about life and death I couldn’t answer. I’ve been writing books about spirituality and the search for meaning ever since.
Introduction
Good
evening! What’s life all about, and how do we make sense of it? And who are we
meant to look to to find out? Is it the traditional religious faiths which have
the answer? Or is it modern science, with all its insights into the way things
are? And does it really have to be either-or, or could it be both-and? Because
often science and faith seem to be in
competition with one another. The latest competitor is Richard Dawkins.
Like
Dawkins, I was for many years an atheist. I thought God was so improbable he
just had to be an illusion. I wasn’t brought up to go to church, but I was a
brownie, so I had to go to monthly church parades. I couldn’t really make head
or tail of it – but I do remember thinking it must be really weird to be a
vicar, and have a job that was all about nothing.
I
did want to know what life was all about, though, and when I was 16 I went to the school library and started
reading books about truth. My favourite subject was biology, but I wanted to go
to Cambridge and I was no good at chemistry, so I did languages instead. I stayed
on to do research, specialising in the Middle Ages. I love the Middle Ages,
because everyone was interested in everything. Science and faith struggled
together to answer life’s greatest questions. Poets studied astronomy and
scientists studied philosophy and theology. Now we live in a world of
specialists. Each has their own language to describe reality, and sometimes
they don’t want to talk to one another.
But I think actually this makes for a really interesting situation – because
again people are beginning to say, do we really have to choose between science
and faith, or can we do both?
The protagonists
Let
me start by introducing you to some of the main characters in the faith and
science story.
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Now let’s take another jump and come up to date. Here are some modern
university professors. At the top is Richard Dawkins, professor of the Public Understanding of
Science at Oxford. He’s well known for his books on evolutionary biology, but
recently he’s been writing about what he believes to be the implications of
Darwinism for religious belief. Dawkins holds that everything that needs to be
known can be known through science.
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And at the bottom is Alister
McGrath, formerly a research
biochemist, now Professor of Historical
Theology, also at Oxford. McGrath has written books charting the rise and fall of
atheism over the last 200 years. He points to the upsurge of interest in
spirituality, and challenges
Now I suppose this all sounds quite academic. But it
isn’t really. All the debate goes on at a rarified level. But the same
questions affect all of us. It’s just that we experience them differently. I
remember once talking to a friend. This friend is now a professor too, as it
happens, but he steers well clear of all this – he’s a specialist in the novel.
Anyway, my friend went on holiday with his girlfriend. This was about 25 years
ago. They stayed in an old cottage deep in the English countryside. He was woken
in the middle of the night by a draught coming from the window. He sat up, and
found himself staring straight through a ghost. It was a man wearing kind of Elizabethan black robes, with one of
those frilly white ruffs round its neck. Now friend wasn’t brought up to think
about things like that. And this was before all this stuff became fashionable.
So, in the best traditions of research, he told me I was on no account ever to
tell anyone. And got on with his book on the novel.
I work quite a lot in Africa. There are no atheists
in Africa, and not many research scientists either; but there are millions of
people trying to make sense of reality. Reality for most Africans is a
complicated mix of the physical world you can see and the spiritual world you
can’t. It’s a world peopled by spirits, spirits of ancestors and disembodied
spirits with whom specialist witchdoctors are able to communicate. They think
it’s incredible that we don’t believe in them. I often find myself asked to
pray with people who have been damaged by their involvement with this invisible
spirit world. A few years ago a man came, pointing at his diseased eyes. Would
we pray for him? As soon as we started, he began to shout and yell and scream.
Don’t waste your time on him, they said, he’s mentally ill, he had a road
accident and damaged his head. He went to the witchdoctor but he just got like
this. I’ve met too many people like this not to believe in evil spirits. Get
out, we said. He coughed and retched, then stood up and smiled. Next day he
came to see us, with a piece of paper that said 1992 on it. He’d been like that
since he visited the witchdoctor – which was 11 years. And now he was clothed
in his right mind. I could tell you lots of stories like that – and some of
them from England too.
The achievements of science
So
those are some of the key characters. Now we’re ready to look at the story.
We’ve
come a long way since Aristotle. Our lives have been transformed by the
achievements of modern science. Galileo was followed by Newton and Newton was
followed by Einstein. I’ve always been fascinated by biology, but I suppose
it’s not really biology that really amazes
me, it’s physics. I’ve read loads of those books which attempt to explain the
discoveries of modern physics to non-specialists. I am astonished that we can
split atoms into protons and neutrons, and those into leptons and quarks. I am
amazed that leptons and quarks are now thought to be not particles at all but
minute strings - vibrating strands of energy that oscillate in lots of
different dimensions. I don’t want to get that wrong, so this is physicist Michio Kaku
explaining it:
The herotic string consists
of a closed string that has two types of vibrations, clockwise and counter
clockwise, which are treated differently. The clockwise vibrations live in a
ten dimensionl space. The counterclockwise live in a 26-dimensional space, of
which 16 dimensions have been compactified.
Are
you OK with that? Because if so, you will be fascinated to know that these
strings may be part of a whole network, a string net liquid, which runs
throughout the vacuum of the universe.
I
like to think about the big questions too. How did the universe begin? We now
know it was at a specific moment in time, 13.7 billion years ago, with a Big
Bang, the background radiation of which is still detectable. Another professor,
Stephen
Hawking, has come up with a mathematical explanation for this which
he calls a singularity theorem. Like Einstein before him, Hawking often talks
about God when he thinks about the universe and its laws. For example,
‘It is
difficult to discuss the beginning of the universe without mentioning the
concept of God. My work on the origin of the universe is on the borderline
between science and religion, but I try to stay on the scientific side of the
border.’
He’s
not alone. Henry Schaefer, Professor of Chemistry at the University of Georgia,
remarks that it’s unusual for a physicist to be an atheist. An American poll a
few years ago showed that on any given Sunday, 41% of PhD scientists are found
in church. In the UK, the Professor of theoretical physics at London University
and the former Professor of theoretical
physics at Cambridge are both Christians. For many top scientists, science and
faith go hand in hand.
There’s
still a problem, though. The problem is that fascinating though all these
scientific discoveries are, they don’t have an immediate impact on my inner
being. How will knowing all this stuff affect our daily lives? A scientist
called Erwin Schroedinger sums it up. Schroedinger was awarded the Nobel
prize for his work in quantum physics,
and he went on to write an incredibly influential book called What is Life? which inspired a whole
generation of molecular biologists. This is what he said about the limits of
science:
I am astonished that the
scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a
lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently
consistent order, but is ghastly silent about all that is really near to our
heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue,
bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of
beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to
answer questions in these domains but the answers are very often so silly that
we are not inclined to take them seriously.
The boundaries of science
Well,
Schroedinger is not the only one to point to the boundaries of science. Ever
since Galileo, science and faith have been somewhat in tension. But gradually
we are becoming aware that science can’t give us the whole picture. It tells us
a lot about the world out there; but doesn’t deal so well with the world we
find inside ourselves. It’s possible, for example, to talk about love in terms
of chemistry, or even in terms of evolutionary biology – which is what Dawkins
does. But does that work for you? Or does it seem to you that there’s more to
it than that?
Science
itself has moved a long way from the astronomical facts discovered by Galileo
and the mechanical laws laid down by Newton; it’s now a mysterious world of
quantum forces and subatomic uncertainties. It fascinates me that the greatest
scientific advances of our times can only be talked about in the language of
poetry and metaphor. We talk about a Big Bang, about the curved material of
spacetime, about string theory. It used to be thought that science proceeded by
a process of gradual factual discovery, like peeling back the layers of an
onion. That might have been so once, but it certainly isn’t any more. This is
Einstein:
‘the supreme task of the
physicist is the search for those highly universal laws from which a picture of
the world can be obtained... There is no logical path leading to these
laws. They are only to be reached by intuition, based on something like an
intellectual love’.
In
other words, science proceeds by
metaphor and hypothesis, by taking leaps of faith which then have to be tested.
That’s how my faith works too. Maybe science and faith aren’t so far apart
after all…
The rise in spirituality
Well,
that’s all quite technical. What’s happening on the street? This is Nicola,
taking part in Professor David Hay’s research study in Nottingham: (6)
I think you just have to
make the most of what you’ve got... and not think too deeply about it. Because
I think if you go into it too deeply, I dunno, you can sort of , ‘Whay am I
here? What am I doing here?’, and it could be sort of a bit negative feeling,
if you aren’t coming up with the right answers’.
This
is Matthew:
It’s probably just a nagging
instinct, that while all the material evidence is telling me, this is
ludicrous, you know, this is all complete chaos, nonsense, it’s arbitrary, you
know, we’re a rock in a vacuum just spinning through nothingness and, you know,
the consequence of impersonal cosmic forces, nothing beyond it. Whilst my sort
of intellectual faculty can tell me that, there is this other, and I’m not
going to use the word ‘soul’, but there’s this other bit of me which is just
sort of going, ‘hang on’, you know, ‘What if, pal?’.
Nicola
and Matthew are typical of people all over the country. They think there’s more
to life than the physical, but they don’t know how to think about it or find
out about it. And while traditional churchgoing is declining, there’s a massive
rise in spiritual awareness and experimentation. These are some of the statistics
from a survey commissioned by the BBC in the year 2000 and compared with the
same questions asked by a Gallup Poll in 1987. If you look at the cumulative
total on the far right, you see that 76% of the UK population now
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55% say they are aware of a patterning of events in their lives,
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38% say they are aware of the presence of God (that’s a 41% increase in
just 13 years).
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37% say they have experience of answered prayer.
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29% are aware of a sacred presence in nature, 25% are aware of the
presence of the dead, and
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25% of the presence of evil (that’s an increase of over 100%).
Why
is this? Well, perhaps it’s because after 200 years of incredible scientific
advances, people are beginning to realise that
maybe there are dimensions of human experience which can’t be investigated
by particle physics or molecular biology. Science does tell us some amazing
things – your body is made of atoms which were once part of a star. 6 trillion
chemical reactions take place in your body every second. You may have as much
as 20m km of DNA bundled up inside you. And we are each so atomically numerous
and so vigorously recycled at death that a up to a billion of our atoms
probably once belonged to Shakespeare.
But
none of the atoms I now have are the same as the ones I was born with – which
makes me think, who am I? Am I just a physical being, or is there more to me
than that? Am I just a body; or do I have a soul? Is science the only language
of reality, or is there another one which we might call faith?
Nicola
and Matthew aren’t as clever as Dawkins – but are they in touch with something
significant?
Richard Dawkins
I
read The God Delusion on holiday this
summer. Quite frankly, I was amazed. Not by his compelling arguments, but by
the astonishing tirade of insults, inaccuracies and caricatures it contains.
It’s nothing like any serious academic book I’ve ever read, and it wasn’t at
all what I was expecting. Let me give you some examples.
This
is Dawkins’ definition of faith: ‘a
persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence,
especially as a symptom of psychiatric disorder’.
This
is what he says about God: the most
unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust,
unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a
misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal,
pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
For
good measure, he throws in that Mother Teresa is a sanctimonious hypocrite. He
says miracles can’t be discussed because
they violate the principles of science. Thomas Aquinas’ demonstration of the
existence of God is vacuous, and Dawkins actually ends his summary of 12th
century theologian Abelard’s work with the sentence ‘nur nurny nur nur’. He
dismisses the personal spiritual experienceof nearly 80% of the population with the one-line
statement that he dealt with hallucination in chapter 3, and concludes the book
with the observation that religion in general is best regarded as the failure
to give up a comfort blanket. At worst, it’s the root of all evil and the
sooner we get rid of it the better for all of us.
The
response to Dawkins has been mixed, to say the least! Philosopher of science
Mary Midgely describes him as a scientific fundamentalist who seems to think
that knowledge reduces to one fundamental form, which is the statements of
science – whereas in fact science is only a small, specialised part of what
anybody knows. Other scientists have said he brings science into disrepute. One
eminent psychiatrist declared that having read the God Delusion he’s concluded that Dawkins knows nothing about God,
and nothing about Delusion. One leading atheist and philosopher of science,
Michael Ruse, has said Dawkins makes him embarrassed to be an atheist.
The
story I like best, though, is one told by one of my colleagues who was asked to
speak about Science and Faith at a men’s breakfast in Oxfordshire. He gave his
talk, a bit nervously because they are all so clever in Oxfordshire. At the end
of the meal a man came up to him to continue the debate. He was the chairman of
an IT company, and for 30 minutes he disagreed with everything Martin had said.
Then at the end he said, ‘Thank you. That was very helpful’. Martin, who felt
he’d been on his back foot the whole time, said helpful, how had it been helpful?
‘The trouble is’, said the man jabbing his finger in the air, ‘I want to
believe Richard Dawkins. But he doesn’t look happy, and you do!’. Well, that’s
scarcely evidence, said Martin, who used to be a lawyer. ‘It’ll do for now!’.
What
accounts for Dawkins’ ferocity? Well, I don’t know. I used to be an atheist,
but it never seemed to me that it was worth getting het up about something I
thought didn’t exist. I’m not an atheist now, but I’m still very happy with the
theory of evolution, as are most
Christians including the Archbishop of Canterbury and the last Pope; but it
seems to me that while it explains many of the how questions, but it doesn’t
answer any of the why questions. Dawkins
wants to stretch evolutionary theory almost into a religion in itself, and turn
it into a philosophy of life. That takes him to some interesting places. For
example he suggests that ideas are ‘memes’ which are transmitted in the same
way as ‘genes’, except without any physical basis. It just doesn’t seem very
scientific, and there’s certainly no evidence for it.
I
think partly you have to understand where Dawkins is coming from, which is
mostly to do with what’s going on in the US rather than what’s going on here.
Just as the 17th century church couldn’t handle Galileo, so some
parts of the contemporary church can’t handle evolution.
The
pesudo-science of creationism is the example which understandably infuriates
Dawkins. In May this year a 27 million dollar Creation Museum opened in
Kentucky. It sets out to demonstrate that the book of Genesis is not just true
but literally, factually, scientifically true. That the universe was created in
6 consecutive 24 hour periods, that the earth is 6,000 years old, and that all
human beings are descended from two individuals named Adam and Eve. It has a
special effects theatre, complete with vibrating seats, where you can watch a
video of the Great Flood and learn how dinosaurs survived aboard the Ark. I’m
as embarrassed by that as Dawkins’ fellow scientists are by him. For me it just
shows a misunderstanding of the opening chapters of Genesis, which wasn’t meant
to be a scientific text but rather a poetic account of the beginning of life.
Equations and formulae just aren’t the only way to describe things.
Why
do the creationists do this? Well, a lot of the current American reaction
against evolutionary theory comes from the so-called social Darwinism of the
early 20th century, which coined the term ‘survival of the fittest’
and taught that it can be applied not just to biological species but to whole
people groups - thus paving the way for racist philosophies such as Nazism. If
that’s what evolution teaches, then it sounds pretty unacceptable. Let’s stick
with the Bible, they say.
Well,
Dawkins doesn’t advocate social Darwinism. His brand of Darwinism is just as
far from what Darwin had in mind, though. It goes way beyond biology. It’s a
kind of cultural Darwinism, if you like, in which not species or people groups
but ideas themselves are the subject of evolution. Religion, Dawkins says, must
have some evolutionary advantage – though he also says he can’t for the life of
him see what it might be. Moving on from his concept of ideas as memes, he
speculates that religious ideas are best regarded as some kind of mind virus,
which interferes with the smooth progress of human development. (Atheistic
ideas are by contrast truths, which frankly is a such a piece of illogicality
that it’s hard to believe it comes from an Oxford scientist).
Science and spirituality
I
said earlier that Professor David Hay believes that the human brain is not so
much infected by faith as specifically wired up for it. I’m fascinated by the
overlapping new fields of neuroscience and what is coming to be called
neurotheology. Let me introduce you to another Oxford academic, Danah Zohar.
She has a research degree from Harvard in physics and psychology, she teaches
in the Strategic Leadership Programme at Oxford and lectures all over the world
on the application of neuroscience to psychology and human relationships. She’s
written a number of books with her psychiatrist husband, the best known of
which are The Quantum Self and Spiritual Intelligence. Zohar draws on
the research of a neuroscientist called Rodolfo Llinas who has found that there
are 3 distinct processes in the brain: pathways, networks and oscillations.
David
Hay summarises some research done by Michael Persinger in the course of his
investigations into epilepsy. Persinger designed a helmet which stimulates the
God spot with a magnetic field of a precise wavelength. Some people report
extraordinary spiritual experiences when wearing this helmet. Dawkins
apparently tried it and said he felt nothing more than a mild tingling…
Horses for courses
So,
how do we cope with all this? Well, I think by using a device which one of
Dawkins’ colleagues, Stephen Gould, has called NOMA. NOMA stands for non-overlapping magisteria. That is,
that you know different things in different ways, and make use of different but
complementary disciplines to investigate them.
In other words, it means you use science to explore one dimension of
reality, and you use faith to explore another dimension of reality.
In
other words, it’s about using HORSES for COURSES. You don’t use a racehorse to
plough a field. Shire horses tend not to win the Grand National. You need the
right tool for the job. And I’d like to suggest that science and faith are
different tools which do equally important but different jobs.
1.
The first is, how do we know things? In other words, how do we access
reality?
2.
And the second is, how do we make sense of them? In other words, how do we explain
reality, discern its purpose (if it has one), and find our place within it?
Every
culture has its own way of answering these 2 questions.
We
in the West are unusual in that we have come at them from 2 different
directions. It’s as if we have 2 different languages, and instead of using one
for each question, we’ve tried to use each of them in turn for both
questions. One is the language of faith,
and the other is the language of science. Both have their sources in the
accidents of history.
1.
The language of faith
Let’s
think about the language of faith. For centuries our culture was founded on
a Hebrew world view which offered
faith-based answers to these 2 fundamental questions. It relied on revelation. According to this approach, what we
know, we know because God tells us; and he tells us not through science but
through story. So the Bible tells the story of the relationship between man and
God in the context of a bigger story which runs from the creation of the world
in time to its recreation in eternity. This world view is still available to us
as Christians. I find that through it,
and in particular through Jesus, I find meaning for my own life. I find that I
have access to a spiritual dimension of reality in which I may safely
participate. I live in the awareness that I am known and that I have a purpose.
The
problem with the Hebrew worldview is that whilst it gives brilliant answers to
the question about purpose – my purpose is my part in the story – it gives
lousy answers to the question about knowledge. Attempts to understand the world
we live in from within this revelation-based framework have become less and
less convincing. Revelation does not help us to understand the working of DNA
or the laws of physics. It’s not meant to.
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The language of science
And
so from the time of Galileo people started to try and answer these questions in
a different way - more like the way the Greeks had answered them – through
logical thought and practical experimentation. Scientists tried to understand
reality by thinking about it rather than by trusting in it, and a new,
scientific worldview was born. It’s taught us a fantastic amount about the
world we live in, and transformed our ability to manage it. But it has nothing
at all to say to us about purpose. As Shroedinger said, it has nothing to say
about all the things that are dearest to our hearts.
What’s
the result? Well, an enormously increased Western standard of living. But
there’s a downside. Journalist Clifford Longley comments:
Everywhere we look, our society shows signs of
strain. What is life all about? Is it just about technology, economics,
success, the right to enjoy ourselves? Or is there something more? Professor
John Drane has said that we are the only people in
the whole of history ever to have supposed that a mechanistic and individualistic
understanding of life offers the way to become fulfilled and whole persons. In 2000 the President of
Harvard University said that the biggest problem among college students today
is inner emptiness. Someone has suggested that our age can be summed up in the
mantra ‘I still haven’t found what I’m looking for’.
So
we have two languages, two horses, two tools. We used just one to start with,
the faith one. That only answered half the questions, so we got rid of it and
started using the other, the science one. But now we are noticing that that
only does half the questions too – the other half. So we’re getting back in touch with the faith
language - people are getting more and more interested in spiritual matters.
Nicola and Matthew may not have the right answers, but they do have some very
good questions.
Where
does this leave us? Well, I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry. Dawkins can
talk about evolutionary biology with incredible sophistication, and I wouldn’t
dream of arguing with him. But when he talks about faith, to be quite frank
it’s a bit of a joke. One critic reviewing the God Delusion said this: ‘imagine someone holding forth on biology
whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book
of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard
Dawkins on theology’.
But
having said that, the results are equally disastrous the other way round. Those
creationists who teach that the world is 6,000 years old (a theory first propounded
in the early 17th century by James Ussher and John Lightfoot, who calculated
that God had created the earth on Sunday 23 October 4004 BC at 9 am London time)
don’t help us to understand either scientific research or biblical teaching.
Science
is fascinating and wonderful. It’s brought us astonishing advances in
knowledge. But it doesn’t help us make sense of what we know. Maybe we should
give the last word to Professor Stephen Hawking, who probably understands the
universe better than anyone. This is what he says:
Although science may solve
the problem of how the universe began, it cannot answer the question ‘why does
the universe bother to exist?’. I don’t know the answer to that.’
But
as a Christians I think that we do have some answers. My experience is that we
find those answers in a dimension of existence of which Richard Dawkins as yet
has no experience. We find them in the context of a relationship with God.
References
and notes
Some of the works specifically referred to in this talk:
Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion, Bantam Press 2006
Alister McGrath, Dawkins’ God – genes, memes and the meaning of life, Blackwell 2005; see also his other books, The Dawkins Delusion and The Twilight of Atheism
New Scientist March 2007 – report on the theory of the string net liquid by Zeeya Merali
New Scientist October 2006 – review of Dawkins by Mary Midgley
H Schaefer, ‘Stephen Hawking, the Big Bang and God’ – lecture given at Georgia University
David Hay, Something There: the biology of the human spirit, DLT 2007
Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything, BCA 2003 – fascinating layman’s overview of the history of our attempt to understand the world we live in
Michael Mayne, This Sunrise of Wonder – letters for the
journey, Fount 1995 – quirky facts and figures
Roy McCloughry, Living in the presence of the future, IVP 2001 – quotes Clifford Longley
Danah Zohar and
Ian Marshall: SQ - Spiritual
Intelligence, the ultimate intelligence, Bloomsbury 2000; and her earlier
book The Quantum Self.